quick question...
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BlackGMC said it right. In addition to being a different size, the 03 has a green connector, 02 a red connector. Those connectors are keyed differently than each other which would make it impossible to connect.
#7
OK but 512kb is LESS than 1024kb. I would think that 2002 512kb file would fit in a 1024kb PCM. I realize DBW 1024 cal. file couldnt be used in a non-DBW 512kb PCM.
I do have some new info. A 411 PCM can be used in place of the 243 PCM in a 2004 truck. I know this because its now up and running. We are using a 497kb 2002 L31 Express Van cal.file.
So we are using a 411PCM(512kb MAX) with a 2002 497kb Express/Savanna cal file in a 2004 truck that has an L31 engine that was originally controlled by a 1997 blackbox 192kb PCM. We even used the stock 2004 truck PCM connectors.
PCm's (1024kb or 1.024mb)with service codes
12576106
12586243
12586242
12583560
12583561
12589463
are interchangeable with each other O/S swaps.
The 411 PCM is a 512kb PCM, we directly swapped it in place along with its O/S in place of a 12586243 1024 kb PCM.
just to be clear, the 99-02 and the 03-07 PCM's BOTH have the Blue connector whil ethe 99-02 have a Red connector, while the 03-07 have the green connector.
99-02 512kb BLUE and RED
03-07 1024kb BLUE GREEN
So are we really sure about those connectors really being "keyed"?
Also how come an offboard tuning harness will fit all the 99-08 LSX PCM's, there no break for 99-02 and 03-08,?(the 97-98 LS1 PCM's being the red headed stepchild or course lol)
peace
Hog
I do have some new info. A 411 PCM can be used in place of the 243 PCM in a 2004 truck. I know this because its now up and running. We are using a 497kb 2002 L31 Express Van cal.file.
So we are using a 411PCM(512kb MAX) with a 2002 497kb Express/Savanna cal file in a 2004 truck that has an L31 engine that was originally controlled by a 1997 blackbox 192kb PCM. We even used the stock 2004 truck PCM connectors.
PCm's (1024kb or 1.024mb)with service codes
12576106
12586243
12586242
12583560
12583561
12589463
are interchangeable with each other O/S swaps.
The 411 PCM is a 512kb PCM, we directly swapped it in place along with its O/S in place of a 12586243 1024 kb PCM.
just to be clear, the 99-02 and the 03-07 PCM's BOTH have the Blue connector whil ethe 99-02 have a Red connector, while the 03-07 have the green connector.
99-02 512kb BLUE and RED
03-07 1024kb BLUE GREEN
So are we really sure about those connectors really being "keyed"?
Also how come an offboard tuning harness will fit all the 99-08 LSX PCM's, there no break for 99-02 and 03-08,?(the 97-98 LS1 PCM's being the red headed stepchild or course lol)
peace
Hog
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Gm list on the 1MB PCms is $464-$514, obviously guys in the know wont buy them from GM. The 411 PCM lists for $277.98.
I am trying to illustrate that there is some flexibility within the 1mb PCM's, and obviously between at least the 243 1mb PCM and the 411 512kb PCM(pinout wise), as a 1mb 243 was pulled out and a 512kb 411 PCM was slipped in.
The internal differences within the 1mb PCM's are due to sourcing and whether the PCM uses Intel brand or AMD brand flash memory.
I am not trying to argue, I just think its imporatant info for those guys who are doing engine swaps and the like, who MAY do a search on this info.
I bid you BOTH a good day.
peace
Hog
I am trying to illustrate that there is some flexibility within the 1mb PCM's, and obviously between at least the 243 1mb PCM and the 411 512kb PCM(pinout wise), as a 1mb 243 was pulled out and a 512kb 411 PCM was slipped in.
The internal differences within the 1mb PCM's are due to sourcing and whether the PCM uses Intel brand or AMD brand flash memory.
I am not trying to argue, I just think its imporatant info for those guys who are doing engine swaps and the like, who MAY do a search on this info.
I bid you BOTH a good day.
peace
Hog
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