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Old 09-07-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILGMC
solder the connections and try yet another throttle body perhaps?
What year T-Body did you have on it when this started?
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Originally Posted by CalEditor@PCMCalibrators
What year T-Body did you have on it when this started?
2005/06 OEM LS2 that I bought at the dealer in 2005/2006...been running it for a long time.
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Originally Posted by EVILGMC
2005/06 OEM LS2 that I bought at the dealer in 2005/2006...been running it for a long time.
I was looking up Schematics
Old 09-07-2011, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CalEditor@PCMCalibrators
What year T-Body did you have on it when this started?
I had a 99 up Camaro TB on mine when it started.
Old 09-07-2011, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILGMC
emailed my tuner for the latest file. that is the LS2 (silver blade version) I have also tried an 87mm NNBS truck TB

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Subject: SES Light and Reduced Engine Power DTC P0120 P0220 P1516 P2135
Models:
2004-2006 Buick Rainer
2005-2006 Cadillac CTS-V
2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade
2003-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche, Corvette, Express, Monte Carlo, Silverado, SSR, Suburban, Tahoe, Trailblazer
2003-2006 GMC Envoy, Savana, Sierra, Yukon
2003-2006 Hummer H2
2005-2006 Pontiac GTO
Equipped with a 4.8 5.3 6.0 or 7.0 V-8 Engine
Condition/Concern:
A vehicle may be brought into the dealer for a reduced power message, and DTCs P0120, P0220, P1516, P2101, or P2135.

The Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) / throttle body type trouble codes, may be caused by a loose wiring crimp at the throttle body connector, or a broken throttle body circuit.

Recommendation/Instructions:
Complete the current SI diagnostics for any symptoms or trouble codes found. If a intermittent T/P or TAC module type code is occurring complete the inspections below.

•Inspect all related throttle body terminals for a loose wiring crimp. The loose crimp may be difficult to find, and the poor connection will be between the terminal and the copper strands of the wire. Wiggle test the individual throttle body circuits to see if the concern can be duplicated.

•Inspect the related circuits for broken wires inside the insulation. The outer wire insulation may look fine, but the internal copper strands may be partially broken. Breaks in the wires usually occur within 1 to 4 inches of the throttle body connector. Wiggle testing may also induce a trouble code to set.

•On C/K trucks complete SI procedures for voltage drop on grounds G103 and G104. Grounds G103 or G104 may be loose or corroded.

If a terminal crimp or a broken wire has been found, repair or replace only the circuits involved. There is a throttle body pigtail connector available through GMSPO, but installing this pigtail connector may cause other intermittent TAC module/TP codes at a later date. If this pigtail must be used, please follow the SI procedures for Splicing Copper Wire Using Splice Sleeves. (the proper Kent-Moore crimping tool must be used for this repair)
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edit will repost

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looks like voltage drop is the next thing to test.

wires ring out strong from TB connector to TAC

bartender...make it a double.
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Originally Posted by EVILGMC
i have checked that....it has actually been moved for quite a long time to the firewall lug....i waqs going to try and reconnect it to the back of the block next time i am at the shop. the bolt is a complete PITA. wish i would have done it with the trans out.
Your picture shows the braided ground strap attached to the firewall lug, is the other end attached to the back of the DS cyl head? Is the black wire attached to the same lug the one that is supposed to be attached to the top rear of the block on the pass side?

Actually, a ground/supply issue could cause a P2135 in these throttle swaps. A P0120 and a P0220 could also pop up together in such cases.

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Old 09-07-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILGMC
anyone have a useful size diagram of g103 and g104.


Not that it helps, but your old X-Link has just been taking up space on my desk, so I finally went out and tested it on my wife's 04 5.3L Trailblazer with an LS2 90mm. Throttle operation was optimal, no codes set.

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