thunder racing tune or nelson
03-03-2006, 04:31 PM
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thunder racing tune or nelson
I live near thunder racing and was wondering what would be better either to to get a TR tune or a mail order nelson. Does TR even do dyno tunes? My truck is still pretty stock so I dont know if a dyno tune would benefit me any more then a mailorder. Also what is torque management and what is a servo? thanks 
03-03-2006, 04:35 PM
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TR all the way. if i am not mistaken you will end up with a dyno tune and that will help squeeze all the extra hp outa that motor. talk to litreddevil. he has had his stuff tuned by geoff at thunder. not knocking allen but if i had the choice between a mail order or dynotune, dyno will win out.
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No way! Nelson tune!!! All the way!
No need for a dyno tune at or near stock with a few bolt-ons.
I would go with the Nelson tune with 75-80% of TM removed with a 93oct tune. You can have him remove 100% if your brave enough like myself. I love it that way though.
You only spend $4.00 more for 93oct vs. 87oct on a full fill up. Plus you get a lot more performance from a 93 oct tune over a 87oct tune.
TM (Torque Management) is a program in the PCM to pull back HP & TQ right before it shifts and upon hard take-offs. It also decreases your tranny's line pressure so you get ugly smooth soft shifts. By taking out some of the TM you will get the most power from your engine and better precise firmer shifts from the tranny which in turn gives you a lot better performance.
You will also get better MPG once your PCM learns its new program and when you quit sticking your foot into the floorboard!
The vette servo basically has more apply area in the servo than the one in your truck currently. It will not make it shift harder, it actually perfects each shift and allows the tranny to hold the vehicle in gear better without it shifting down constantly when going up a hill and such.
Though if you do decide to do the vette servo, do not get the billet rod, just use the same rod that's in the servo that your truck has in it.
Also change your t-stat to a 170 or 180* stat.
Hope this helps!
Jim
No need for a dyno tune at or near stock with a few bolt-ons.
I would go with the Nelson tune with 75-80% of TM removed with a 93oct tune. You can have him remove 100% if your brave enough like myself. I love it that way though.
You only spend $4.00 more for 93oct vs. 87oct on a full fill up. Plus you get a lot more performance from a 93 oct tune over a 87oct tune.
TM (Torque Management) is a program in the PCM to pull back HP & TQ right before it shifts and upon hard take-offs. It also decreases your tranny's line pressure so you get ugly smooth soft shifts. By taking out some of the TM you will get the most power from your engine and better precise firmer shifts from the tranny which in turn gives you a lot better performance.
You will also get better MPG once your PCM learns its new program and when you quit sticking your foot into the floorboard!
The vette servo basically has more apply area in the servo than the one in your truck currently. It will not make it shift harder, it actually perfects each shift and allows the tranny to hold the vehicle in gear better without it shifting down constantly when going up a hill and such.
Though if you do decide to do the vette servo, do not get the billet rod, just use the same rod that's in the servo that your truck has in it.
Also change your t-stat to a 170 or 180* stat.
Hope this helps!
Jim
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03-03-2006, 07:00 PM
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thanks for all the info guys. where is futral located?
I would choose him over Thunder of course because he does all my tuning. also though, all Alan does is LS1 based stuff and some earlier lt1 stuff. Thunder does other makes of cars, not a bad thing, but I feel alot more comfortable using somebody that specializes in only one engine type.
03-03-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ranwalk
There located in Walker. They are a sponsor at LS1tech. I cant post a link to his site since he isnt a sponsor here.
I would choose him over Thunder of course because he does all my tuning. also though, all Alan does is LS1 based stuff and some earlier lt1 stuff. Thunder does other makes of cars, not a bad thing, but I feel alot more comfortable using somebody that specializes in only one engine type.
I would choose him over Thunder of course because he does all my tuning. also though, all Alan does is LS1 based stuff and some earlier lt1 stuff. Thunder does other makes of cars, not a bad thing, but I feel alot more comfortable using somebody that specializes in only one engine type.
Very reputable guy!
Jim
