closet red neck

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A neighbor just finished completing his CHL class this past Sunday and he said the instructor showed them youtube vids on this ammo. He sent me a text and said that he was going to get some. He went on about how badass this ammo was and it was worth the money($38 for 20rnds). He sent me some links of the video and then I started researching this San Antonio Tx made ammo. Anyways, just wanted to open a can of worms and see what y'all think of this ammo. I'll chime in every now and then. Do your own research and lets discuss. This ammo has raised a lot of questions with personal protection and the military too. Just search the above stated title. Can't wait to see what y'all find out. I personally think this ammo is garbage.

James

1slow01Z71

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There are a ton of studies, water and gel tests on the major brands and the general consensus is they all do a pretty good job. Caliber also plays a big role in how a given bullet design works. Thus the 357sig that seems to be popular these days or my personal favorite the 45. Also depends on what you're going to use it for. For home defense I don't want a round that's coming out really hot and can go through a wall and possibly injure my family. Which is why I like the 45, big, slow and packs a punch without ridiculous over-penetration. I like the Winchester Ranger Ts personally and they're about 10 bucks cheaper per 20 than the ammo you're talking about depending on the caliber.

Long time no talk call avoider

closet red neck

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Here, this is off their site.

32 ACP 37 gr. TFSP 1815 fps / 271 flbs
380 ACP 45 gr. TFSP 1835 fps / 337 flbs
9mm 60 gr. TFSP 2010 fps / 539 flbs
9 X 23 Win. 50 gr. TFSP 2625 fps / 800 flbs
38 Super 60 gr. TFSP 2225 fps / 660 flbs
9x18 Makarov 45 gr. TFSP 1850 fps / 342 flbs
357 Sig. 60 gr. TFSP 2410 fps / 774 flbs
38 Spl. 60 gr. TFSP 1705 fps / 385 flbs
357 Mag. 60 gr. TFSP 1975 fps / 520 flbs
40 S&W 77 gr. TFSP 2100 fps / 754 flbs
10mm 77 gr. TFSP 2420 fps / 1015 flbs
44 Spl. 110 gr. TFSP 2030 fps / 1007 flbs
44 Mag. 110 gr. TFSP 2430 fps / 1445 flbs
45 ACP 90 gr. TFSP 2036 fps / 828 flbs
45 ACP 115 gr. TFSP 1650 fps / 700 flbs
45 Colt 120 gr. TFSP 1950 fps / 1013 flbs
223 Rem. 37 gr. TFSP 3880 fps / 1337 flbs
243 Win. 78 gr. TFSP 3700 fps / 2280 flbs
270 Win. 110 gr. TFSP 3525 fps / 3036 flbs
7mm Rem. 108 gr. TFSP 3800 fps / 3207 flbs
7.62X39mm 112 gr. TFSP 3100 fps / 2391 flbs
7.62X39 Sabot 37 gr. TFSP 3700 fps / 1216 flbs
308 Win. 112 gr. TFSP 3650 fps / 3373 flbs
30-06 Spf. 112 gr. TFSP 3650 fps / 3374 flbs
300 Win. Mag. 112 gr. TFSP 3800 fps / 3595 flbs
300 Rem. UM 112 gr. TFSP 4100+ fps / 4256+ flbs
30/378 Wby M 160 gr. TFSP 4300+ fps / 6571+ flbs
50 BMG 500 gr. BMTSP 3500+ fps / 14944 flbs
50 BMG Sabot 200 gr. BMTSP 5900+ fps / 15465 flbs


James

bai78

Hmm....if this ammo was so great, how come no pds have chosen to use this ammo instead the "standard" issue?

1slow01Z71

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Check this out
The Box O' Truth #38 - RBCD Ammo Vs. The Box O' Truth - Page 1
Basically explains why I don't like super hot light loads. 2100fps out of a 45 is absolutely nuts. That's 3 times what a normal 45 round does.

bai78

It'll basically shatter like a .22lr instead of doing it's job.

I'll stick with my 230 gr jhp in .45!

nonnieselman

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Yea not exactly what im looking for.
Ever shot a deer with a 45gr hp out of a 22-250 at 4000fps?
Very very shallow wound channel but very wide. And alot of sourrounding soft tissue damage from the fragments. But nothing past about 5" deep.

Me, ill stick with my 155gr winchester rangers that i know work great out of my sub compact 40.
Had to test it on a deer, works perfect from 40yds